Today the Reverend boy and His Personal Atheist discuss the general malaise of the United States, titles of bishops, the iPhone craze, and antidisestablishmentarianism.
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Every now and again, my Personal Atheist sends me quotes from various “overheard” sites and we comment on them a la Statler and Waldorf from The Muppet Show. One such exchange is below. Because we both have ADD and can switch gears in conversation on a dime we immediately started talking about something else, such as the titles of bishops.
Personal Atheist: Overhead on the street:
PA: Teacher-in-training #1: Did you know Alaska isn’t an island?Teacher-in-training #2: Um… Yes…Teacher-in-training #1: Oh. ‘Cause I just found out yesterday.—Lansing, Michigan
the Reverend boy: there is no hope for this country. None at all
PA: i know. LOL
Rb: <sings> “O Canada … “
Rb: God save the Queen!
PA: i was going to suggest that.
Rb: Long Live the Reverend boy :-p
Rb: you know if i got to be Presiding Bishop or Archbishop I would be the Most Reverend boy?
PA: you already are in my books.
Rb: awww
Rb: If I were Dean of a cathedral, I’d be the Very Reverend boy. :-p
Rb: i told both of those to one of the beta twins, and he said “LOL. Oh, Lord..” and i replied (expectedly) “Yes my boy?”
PA:
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The Personal Atheist has bought an iPhone, much to my chagrin. For the record, I think it’s a nifty gadget, and quite pretty after a fashion, but I can’t see spending so much money on a phone that can’t make phone calls with good reception. To quote Carol Burnett, “well, it’s pretty, but it doesn’t answer my question.”
PA: 90% of people who bought the iPhone are very happy with it.
Rb: most people are very happy when their toys are new
PA: well, it’s been 2 weeks, so if there were problems, some people would hate it by now
Rb: that would be the 10%
PA: i mean problems for some. Or disappointment.
PA: i think the 90% number says a lot.
Rb: yes it does
PA: i’m sure it will go down in time. and part of it is due to the psychological effect of the price (you tend to like things that you pay a lot for).
Rb: how many people have bought it?
PA: about 1 million, i’d guess.
Rb: so we have about 1million people who have spent a lot of money on a phone which can’t make a decent phone call.
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Finally, we were discussing my spiritual autobiography, which I believe is required of all aspirants (there’s the title of a religious porn magazine if there ever was one!) to the Episcopal Church, not just in my diocese. Now, I think I’ve lived quite a full life, so the biography which went about 9 pages. Imagine my horror when it was required that it be no more than 5 pages, 1 inch margins, and in Times New Roman 12pt font. So after a few days of trying to edit it down and have it make sense …..
Rb: My biography is just going to have to be a few lines longer than 5 pages. I just can’t trim it any more unless i do things like cheat and have some really long paragraphs :-p
PA:: use shorter words.
Rb: Like disestablishmentarianism or antidisestablishmentarianism
PA:
PA: the amazing thing is that you could actually use those in a sentence!
PA: i’ve decided to identify as counterantidisestablishmentarianistic.
Rb: LOL!
PA: that should get me into the guiness book of records.
Rb: or smacked in the head … or a puzzled look … or a pint of beer depending on who’s in the pub at the time :-p
PA:
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And so ends this episode the Reverend boy and his Personal Atheist. Until next time, pee hee!
Liberal, Gay and Evangelical
18 07 2007Some may be surprised that I identify myself as an Evangelical. I call myself that because I believe in spreading the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to a broken and fallen world. The term “Evangelical” I have said over and over again has been co-opted by Christian Conversatives and Fundamentalists, and I long for the day when the religious right finally loses the monopoly on the name.
Fleming Rutledge, a retired Episcopal Priest has listed a proposed Ten Evangelical Affirmations which I believe sums up what “Evangelical” means, which I am reprinting below. I am a big fan of Fleming. I wouldn’t describe her as a supporter of the full inclusion of GLBT folk in the Church (at least not in the way that we normally mean it), but I do believe her theology is very sound and I respect her scholarship. You’ll definitely find her influence in some of my sermons.
Now … onto the affirmations …
Does anyone have any thoughts on any of these? For myself, I think it’s interesting that she affirms two theories of atonement (point 3 being substitutionary atonement and point 4 being more of Christus Victor), which is something that not many people do. She also unsurprisingly takes a very high view of scripture, but she stops short of saying that it is “inerrant,” which is interesting. I don’t think the bible is inerrant, but I do believe that it’s true and it can be trusted as being inspired by God.
All in all, I think this is a very good snapshot of Evangelical theology. I would be curious as to what others think. I’m just curious more than anything, especially with those who might disagree with any of the above statements and why.
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